After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
Over and over and over.
On Nov 19, 11:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
> Over and over and over.
I'm having some weird issues with Excel 2004 as well on my iMac 24"
alum body with OS 10.5.1 and v11.3.7 of Excel. When I print a
spreadsheet, nothing prints, I get a blank sheet. If I look at the
sheet with print preview, the entire preview window is white with the
exception of a blue rectangular area in the upper left corner. This
happens on multiple files that have been created since upgrading to
Leopard, but not on older spreadsheets. Also, the same file does not
have this issue on my MacBook (black) with the same OS and version of
Excel.
But even before doing these I would run DiskWarrior and see what it has to
say about things.
-Jim
Quoting from "designer0529@suttondesign.com" , in article
50692b55-0c3c-40a1-8fcf-156963564d0e@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:
> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
> Over and over and over.
Leopard requires new printer drivers from some manufacturers. HP driver
updates are delivered by Apple's software update, but other brands require a
trip to the web site of the printer manufacturer to get the latest updates.
Try updating the printer driver and see if that solves the problem.
-Jim
Quoting from "Michael T" , in article
357e5322-8769-410b-a88e-143a4f6df79e@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:
> On Nov 19, 11:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
>> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
>> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
>> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
>> Over and over and over.
>
> I'm having some weird issues with Excel 2004 as well on my iMac 24"
> alum body with OS 10.5.1 and v11.3.7 of Excel. When I print a
> spreadsheet, nothing prints, I get a blank sheet. If I look at the
> sheet with print preview, the entire preview window is white with the
> exception of a blue rectangular area in the upper left corner. This
> happens on multiple files that have been created since upgrading to
> Leopard, but not on older spreadsheets. Also, the same file does not
> have this issue on my MacBook (black) with the same OS and version of
> Excel.
>
> Any thoughts here?
On Nov 19, 8:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
> Over and over and over.
I am also having the same problem. Have you resolved the issue?
Thanks for the information. I can now print from Excel to my Brother
HL-2070N laser printer, but still not from my MFC-5440CN. I can't
tell if version 1.20 of the MFC-5440CN driver is the most current or
not, but that's all I can get loaded. Other programs (eg., Adobe,
Word) can print to the 5440, but not Excel. Any other thoughts?
mt
On Nov 20, 10:52 pm, Jim Gordon MVP
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Leopard requires new printer drivers from some manufacturers. HP driver
> updates are delivered by Apple's software update, but other brands require a
> trip to the web site of the printer manufacturer to get the latest updates.
>
> Try updating the printer driver and see if that solves the problem.
>
> -Jim
>
> Quoting from "Michael T" , in article
> 357e5322-8769-410b-a88e-143a4f6df...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 11:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
> >> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
> >> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
> >> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
> >> Over and over and over.
>
> > I'm having some weird issues with Excel 2004 as well on my iMac 24"
> > alum body with OS 10.5.1 and v11.3.7 of Excel. When I print a
> > spreadsheet, nothing prints, I get a blank sheet. If I look at the
> > sheet with print preview, the entire preview window is white with the
> > exception of a blue rectangular area in the upper left corner. This
> > happens on multiple files that have been created since upgrading to
> > Leopard, but not on older spreadsheets. Also, the same file does not
> > have this issue on my MacBook (black) with the same OS and version of
> > Excel.
>
> > Any thoughts here?
>
> --
> Jim Gordon
> Mac MVP
>
> MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
> MVP infohttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
It's a very long shot - but maybe if you used a different font in the
workbook it might help.
-Jim
Quoting from "Michael T" , in article
a9ecf57c-968a-4398-b436-864ff8a87dee@d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the information. I can now print from Excel to my Brother
> HL-2070N laser printer, but still not from my MFC-5440CN. I can't
> tell if version 1.20 of the MFC-5440CN driver is the most current or
> not, but that's all I can get loaded. Other programs (eg., Adobe,
> Word) can print to the 5440, but not Excel. Any other thoughts?
>
> mt
>
> On Nov 20, 10:52 pm, Jim Gordon MVP
> wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Leopard requires new printer drivers from some manufacturers. HP driver
>> updates are delivered by Apple's software update, but other brands require a
>> trip to the web site of the printer manufacturer to get the latest updates.
>>
>> Try updating the printer driver and see if that solves the problem.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> Quoting from "Michael T" , in article
>> 357e5322-8769-410b-a88e-143a4f6df...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, on [DATE:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 19, 11:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
>>>> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
>>>> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
>>>> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
>>>> Over and over and over.
>>
>>> I'm having some weird issues with Excel 2004 as well on my iMac 24"
>>> alum body with OS 10.5.1 and v11.3.7 of Excel. When I print a
>>> spreadsheet, nothing prints, I get a blank sheet. If I look at the
>>> sheet with print preview, the entire preview window is white with the
>>> exception of a blue rectangular area in the upper left corner. This
>>> happens on multiple files that have been created since upgrading to
>>> Leopard, but not on older spreadsheets. Also, the same file does not
>>> have this issue on my MacBook (black) with the same OS and version of
>>> Excel.
>>
>>> Any thoughts here?
>>
>> --
>> Jim Gordon
>> Mac MVP
>>
>> MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
>> MVP infohttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
Try setting the print quality to 600 DPI or 300 DPI (instead of high) in the
print dialog box (file -> print).
Bras
wrote in message
news:143d597b-5c7d-4186-a23b-d5491cc4fe64@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 19, 8:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
>> After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
>> commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
>> the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
>> Over and over and over.
>
> I am also having the same problem. Have you resolved the issue?
On Nov 21, 7:54 am, dua...@verizon.net wrote:
> On Nov 19, 8:03 pm, designer0...@suttondesign.com wrote:
>
> > After a few minutes of working on a spreadsheet, I can't get keyboard
> > commands to work. I have to go to the menu and "save" and then exit
> > the program, then start it up again to get keyboard commands back.
> > Over and over and over.
>
> I am also having the same problem. Have you resolved the issue?
No. I tried re-installing the software. No luck. There's a Leopard
problem.
patrick
At the beginning of 12/07 I bought an iMAC. A few weeks later I purchased MAS-Office for Student & Teacher. I used bootcamp to create a PC side and an Apple side. I moved my excel workbooks to the apple side with a problem. They worked for about 2 weeks. One of my files is password protected. I have used this password on this file for over 10 years. However, Excel is not recognizing that password. Do you have any ideas on how to get into my workbook?
> At the beginning of 12/07 I bought an iMAC. A few weeks later I purchased
> MAS-Office for Student & Teacher. I used bootcamp to create a PC side
> and an Apple side. I moved my excel workbooks to the apple side with a
> problem. They worked for about 2 weeks. One of my files is password
> protected. I have used this password on this file for over 10 years.
> However, Excel is not recognizing that password. Do you have any ideas on
> how to get into my workbook?
If it worked for two weeks and suddenly stopped, and you're *positive*
you're using the same (correct) password, the file has probably been
corrupted, in which case you'll have to use your backup (you *do* have
the file set to back up every time you save, right?.
OTOH, any XL password can be cracked fairly easily (trivially easily for
internal passwords, with a minimum of work for file passwords).
AFAIK, there are no free utilities (which work fine for simple or very
short passwords) for Mac. You can google for Win versions.
More complex or longer passwords can be cracked for a small fee by
commercial providers, usually in less time than it takes to enter your
credit card number. See
Having a passworded excel file that I cannot open because the keyboard is not responding in the password area or the keyboard is sending the wrong information to Excel. I have dropped back to my G3 and resaved the files without passwords and migrated them to my new Mac Mini. They open fine without password protection. I then Saved As with the password and again the keyboard at times does not enter data in the password field. Canceling the file and reopening it sometimes works. Ouch!! Is this a keyboard, Excel, Leopard, or intel processor G5 issue? Are the above keyboard issues the same or related?
All of a sudden, my brand-new Excel 2004 Student and Teacher Edition will not open because it looks like a Classic Application. Word, Powerpoint, and the others seem fine -- what gives with Excel?
Excel 2008 and Leopard (I could also list other programs i.e. QuickBooks Pro) do not mix. MS got my money and now will not respond to any request to provide workarounds to their problems with their Excel.
Save your money until MS finally figures out what their problems are with their antiquated software.
On 1/27/08 9:46 PM, in article ee7fdb7.13@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "REECO@officeformac.com" wrote:
Excel 2008 and Leopard (I could also list other programs i.e. QuickBooks
Pro) do not mix. MS got my money and now will not respond to any request
to provide workarounds to their problems with their Excel.
Save your money until MS finally figures out what their problems are with
their antiquated software.
It’s up to you to tell them what the problems are, they can’t guess. Use Send feedback in the help menu. If you want your money back, there are provisions for this in the EULA. Contact your supplier to get a refund.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
Mr. Greenblatt:
They are not required to guess. I have sent them (MS) numerous comments about the problems. They will not respond nor release a fix to the problems.
I didn't know this was the forum to detail the problems.
Again, they are just dabbling with this segment of their vast business model. If it were not for many of my MS / Window based customers, I too would abandon this product.
On 1/28/08 3:17 PM, in article ee7fdb7.15@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "REECO@officeformac.com" wrote:
Mr. Greenblatt:
They are not required to guess. I have sent them (MS) numerous comments
about the problems. They will not respond nor release a fix to the problems.
I didn't know this was the forum to detail the problems.
Again, they are just dabbling with this segment of their vast business
model. If it were not for many of my MS / Window based customers, I too
would abandon this product.
Slow down a little. First, the people who respond here are not Microsoft employees, just users like you – with many of the same problems and frustrations. Using the send feedback is the best way to bring something to Microsoft’s attention. They do not answer or acknowledge these submissions, but rest assured that they do listen. Also, lately there are Microsoft employees monitoring this list.
About releasing a fix, the product has been on the market for just over a week. I’m sure they are busy working on a whole bunch of fixes. It is pretty unreasonable to expect fixes in ‘real-time” It takes a lot of research and testing to make sure the fix is correct and doesn’t break anything else.
You are free to use or abandon any product as you choose. It is not fair, or reasonable to second guess Microsoft’s business priorities. You can accept any conspiracy theory you choose, just realize that it’s probably wrong.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
This product speaks for itself. I did not see the disclaimer that I was buying a beta version. The problems are too basic to think that these would not be experienced by a little trail/testing prior to the release. MS is know for their "throw it on the wall and see if it will stick".
Obviously, you and I will always differ on this issue.
As I said before, the product speaks for itself. The CUSTOMER is the one that pays the high ticket and gets the low product.
Again, I am just alerting the unexpected CUSTOMER that they will be buying a product at this stage which will create too many problems for the money spent. So Buyer Beware - Keep using your previous version until the fully tested and modified, non-beta version is released. I will guess 2-3 months.
Having major problems with Excel in Leopard, pivot tables freeze the whole G5 Mac, Keyboard stops working and documents I managed to edit and save before a crash will not now open. Lets all hope the bug fixes arrive soon !
I have a MacBook Pro that I got last summer. Great machine and no problems with Excel. Then I load Leopard and I have the problems other describe. ONLY in Excel does the keyboard freeze up. If I click on some other application then I can go back to Excel--sometimes for a while, sometimes only for one entry. Apple has suggested deleting Microsoft font file ( /user/library/preferences/Microsoft and find the file "Office font cache". Move the file to trash, empty the trash, and reboot.) but that didn't fix the problem. It is a real pain in the butt for those of us who use Excel a lot. Does anyone know if the problem persists in Mac's Numbers program? Does anyone have a fix?
> I have a MacBook Pro that I got last summer. Great machine and no problems
> with Excel. Then I load Leopard and I have the problems other describe. ONLY
> in Excel does the keyboard freeze up. If I click on some other application
> then I can go back to Excel--sometimes for a while, sometimes only for one
> entry. Apple has suggested deleting Microsoft font file (
> /user/library/preferences/Microsoft and find the file "Office font cache".
> Move the file to trash, empty the trash, and reboot.) but that didn't fix the
> problem. It is a real pain in the butt for those of us who use Excel a lot.
> Does anyone know if the problem persists in Mac's Numbers program? Does
> anyone have a fix?
No idea about Numbers - though since it's a new problem, it really can't
"persist". Check an Apple-related newsgroup.
I'm not sure which "problems that other describe" you're talking about.
In the archives, I can find only two posts that talked about keyboards
freezing in XL. Those posts referred to Mac Pros, the freezing was
temporary (10-45 seconds), and limited to entry in the formula bar, and
there's no indication there was any resolution. Perhaps I missed some,
though - can you cite a reference?
Which version (and update) of XL? Have you updated to OS X 10.5.1? Are
you using the built-in keyboard? What keyboard settings are you using?
Does the same problem happen if you log into another user account?
Do you get the spinning beach ball?
What does Activity Monitor indicate about XL's CPU use? Are there other
high-use processes?
Is there any particular activity you're trying to do when the freeze
occurs (e.g., data entry, scrolling, entry in the formula bar, etc.)?
Do you have any custom keyboard shortcuts that could cause this (either
within XL or with System Preferences/Keyboard and Mouse/Keyboard
Shortcuts)?
When you switch away to another app, can you switch back again
immediately, or is there a delay?
When you say "those of us" - do you know others that are experiencing
the same problem?
I am having problems with Excel 2008 on 10.5.1 PPC. It does not remember the cell formats from closing and opening the file.
Hopefully someone can reproduce the problem. When I create a new document and have the format be for consecutive columns be: date (centered), general (centered), accounting, accounting, accounting. After closing the file and opening it up again the date format column is all of a sudden accounting.
Should I uninstall Office 2004? It isn't a trial version so I didn't think it would be necessary...
> I am having problems with Excel 2008 on 10.5.1 PPC. It does not remember the
> cell formats from closing and opening the file.
>
> Hopefully someone can reproduce the problem. When I create a new document and
> have the format be for consecutive columns be: date (centered), general
> (centered), accounting, accounting, accounting. After closing the file and
> opening it up again the date format column is all of a sudden accounting.
I can't reproduce this, though I've seen some strange number format
issues.
Do the dates already entered into the date column actually change to
accounting values, or is the problem just with blank cells in the date
column?
Does the problem persist if you uncheck the Extend data range formats
and formulas checkbox in Preferences/Edit?
Are you using a custom template to create your workbook?
> Should I uninstall Office 2004? It isn't a trial version so I didn't think it
> would be necessary...
It's not necessary.
Just got my first Mac since buying my very first computer - an Osborne! Remember those? Well, here's the deal. I have a B4350 Mono Laser Printer made by OKI. Used it with a PC till December of 2006 when I disconnected it, set it on a shelf and forgot about it. I want to use it with the Imac and MS Word (Office Student Teacher) so I hooked it up. I retrieved the current driver from Oki's site and opened with Stuffit Expander. All good. I opened my doc, issued the command to print and noting happens. It did print a test page with one line of gobbledygoook text. Hmmm - uncool. So, I looked to see what the status of te job was. Mac says its in the cued-up and ready to go. So, I hit print again. Still no good. Now I Have two print jobs cued up, but now the details box says that they are "printing". Not true, of course. So, I conclude that since the printer sees the Mac (I can tell by its display) and the Mac sees the printer, that things should be working. Still, bad USB cables can do weird things, so I attach a new one. No good - still no printing. It occurs to me (a long shot I know) that maybe the Imac needed a restart as a result of the new driver. I restarted - no good, still no workee! I'm prone to violence against machines, so I decided to go away for a day or two and see if a solution presented itself to my mind. So far, nothing has ocurred to me. I also need to create a Cash-Flow spreadsheet in Excel, so I am double-secret worried that I'm about to have trouble with it as well if the previous posts are any indication of what I can expect. I'm a Texan (from a very rural area) posted to beautiful Northern CA. I love CA, but go nuts on computers and peripherals that resist my will. Can anyone offer advice that will help me avoid doing violence to valuable stuff I can't really afford to smash with a baseball bat?
On 1/31/08 2:10 PM, in article ee7fdb7.24@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "CowboyCopas@officeformac.com" wrote:
Just got my first Mac since buying my very first computer - an Osborne!
Remember those? Well, here's the deal. I have a B4350 Mono Laser Printer
made by OKI. Used it with a PC till December of 2006 when I disconnected
it, set it on a shelf and forgot about it. I want to use it with the Imac
and MS Word (Office Student Teacher) so I hooked it up. I retrieved the
current driver from Oki's site and opened with Stuffit Expander. All good.
I opened my doc, issued the command to print and noting happens. It did
print a test page with one line of gobbledygoook text. Hmmm - uncool.
So, I looked to see what the status of te job was. Mac says its in the
cued-up and ready to go. So, I hit print again. Still no good. Now I Have
two print jobs cued up, but now the details box says that they are "printing".
Not true, of course. So, I conclude that since the printer sees the Mac
(I can tell by its display) and the Mac sees the printer, that things
should be working. Still, bad USB cables can do weird things, so I attach
a new one. No good - still no printing. It occurs to me (a long shot I
know) that maybe the Imac needed a restart as a result of the new driver.
I restarted - no good, still no workee! I'm prone to violence against
machines, so I decided to go away for a day or two and see if a solution
presented itself to my mind. So far, nothing has ocurred to me. I also
need to create a Cash-Flow spreadsheet in Excel, so I am double-secret
worried that I'm about to have trouble with it as well if the previous
posts are any indication of what I can expect. I'm a Texan (from a very
rural area) posted to beautiful Northern CA. I love CA, but go nuts on
computers and peripherals that resist my will. Can anyone offer advice
that will help me avoid doing violence to valuable stuff I can't really
afford to smash with a baseball bat?
Muchas gracias!
I’ll try. First, for the printer. You said it is connected via USB right? Can you print with TextEdit which is in the applications folder? Do you get any errors when trying to print? Is the printer paused? Have you restarted of repaired permissions after you installed Oki’s drivers?
For Excel, I think the others are having very different problems than you might have. There ought to be a couple of built in templates that will help you get started. Try it, and try really hard to post back here with any problems before you pick up any tool of mass destruction.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
1) Leopard on a PPC Quad - Excel crashes when attempting to print no matter what printer is selected or even if generate a PDF is selected - prints fine on a Leopard MBP
2) Basing a calculation on the Grand Total of a pivot table doesn't update the calculation when the pivot table is updated (Calc now doesn't work either). Starting a new document from scratch doesn't have this problem.
I went back and forth with Microsort tech support regarding the keystroking issue with Excel in Leopard trying to solve the problem. Simply put, Excel does not accept keystrokes in Leopard, and is virtually unusable. Microsoft's position is that it is a Mac OS issue.
My solution is I bought Apple iWork and use their Numbers application which works very well on Leopard, is very similar to Excel, and is much cheaper than Office Suite. You can also open its documents in Excel.
This is the first problem I've have with my little leopard baby:
Every time I try to run spell check in Excel 2004, Excel either quits unexpectedly or I get the spinning beach ball. I haven't been able to spell check my entire spreadsheet once. And if I try to do it little by little, saving every so often, Excel quits unexpectedly while I'm trying to save.
I'm tearing my hair out, here. Can anyone offer advice?
> This is the first problem I've have with my little leopard baby:
>
> Every time I try to run spell check in Excel 2004, Excel either quits
> unexpectedly or I get the spinning beach ball. I haven't been able to spell
> check my entire spreadsheet once. And if I try to do it little by little,
> saving every so often, Excel quits unexpectedly while I'm trying to save.
>
> I'm tearing my hair out, here. Can anyone offer advice?
NumLock doesn't work in Excel with Leopard. The numeric keypad on my external Microsoft keyboard doesn't work in Excel, nor does the numeric pad on my MacBook (that F5 should activate).
NumLock & the number pads work like they always have on other apps, including Word 2004, AppleWorks 6, and Mail. Strangely, the number pads work in Excel also, but only to let me add numbers to a password dialog to open a worksheet. NumLock dies as soon as that dialog goes away.
(I'm also encountering the periodic keyboard freezes in Excel -only- that others have reported.)
Weird. Are others having problems with NumLock and the numbers keypad? Does Excel 2008 fix this?
MacBook (2GHz Core Duo), MacOS 10.5.1 w. keyboard firmware update, Excel 2004 (current updates), Intellitype Pro 6.2 (for the external keyboard).
I am not sure if this is related, but I have Excel 2004 for mac on a new imac intel. The shortcut I use a ton, to switch between open windows doesn't work. I even confirmed in the help that it is still part of excel 2004. the shortcut is ⌘-tilde (~). However, it doesn't work. Instead it shows the formulas for all of the cells.
> I am not sure if this is related, but I have Excel 2004 for mac on a new imac
> intel. The shortcut I use a ton, to switch between open windows doesn't work.
> I even confirmed in the help that it is still part of excel 2004. the
> shortcut is ⌘-tilde (~). However, it doesn't work. Instead it shows the
> formulas for all of the cells.
>
> Any suggestions? Thanks.
The default shortcuts are
CMD-` Switch windows within an application
CTRL-` Toggle between displaying results & formulae
where ` is the accent grave on the same key as the tilde on US keyboards.
> NumLock doesn't work in Excel with Leopard. The numeric keypad on my external
> Microsoft keyboard doesn't work in Excel, nor does the numeric pad on my
> MacBook (that F5 should activate).
>
> NumLock & the number pads work like they always have on other apps,
> including Word 2004, AppleWorks 6, and Mail. Strangely, the number pads work
> in Excel also, but only to let me add numbers to a password dialog to open a
> worksheet. NumLock dies as soon as that dialog goes away.<
Don't have a external Microsoft keyboard, but I have no problem with F6
(not F5) as NumLock on my MacBook Pro with XL04 or XL08.
After reading MVP's reply, I remembered that old trouble maker, corrupted preferences. I trashed some Apple keyboard prefs and some Excel 10 prefs and the MS keyboard prefs. The number keys now work correctly. Of course I had to restore a lot of stuff.
If I had done this scientifically, I'd know which one was the culprit, but it's nice that it works.
However, I think the keyboard freeze is still there. It's happened once with the fresh prefs; it may just have been a disc operation.
Every time I print Excel '08 crashes. It happens no matter how many worksheets or cells I print. Also, doesn't matter what brand of printer or connection type (network or wired) same result. I have tried reinstalling and encounter the same issue. Any suggestions?
> Every time I print Excel '08 crashes. It happens no matter how many
> worksheets or cells I print. Also, doesn't matter what brand of printer or
> connection type (network or wired) same result. I have tried reinstalling and
> encounter the same issue. Any suggestions?
Reinstalling is nearly always a complete waste of time - applications
just don't corrupt very frequently.
OTOH, preferences do sometimes corrupt, as do files.
Does the crash happen only with this workbook? or does it happen with a
newly created one?
You can try, with Office apps closed, deleting these files:
On 2/11/08 8:45 PM, in article ee7fdb7.39@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "Shirley C Miller " <> wrote:
Are all of you people trying to tell me that Microsoft Excel
is not what I want to use? How can I bypass it and use the old
2004 Excel?
Shirley M
“All of us people”? I think Excel 2008 is what you should be using. The ONLY reason to use Excel 2004 is if you have VBA macros that are required, and do not wish to convert them to Apple Script or XLM. Both Excel 2004 and 2008 can coexist on the same machine without any problems.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
Bob, please don't be so inclusive. ALL of us do not think Excel 2008 is something that one should buy right now. The program is in beta mode. It so happens you have to pay for their research. Another Microsoft slam at Mac.
Ronnie
Hi,
We're having a problem where Excel 2008 suddenly quits. We're running Leopard 10.5.2 on a 2.16Ghz iMac with 2 Gigs of Ram. Is there a way to export and import the data into a new file to see if that helps? Thanks : )
My problem is a bit different. Running Excel 2004 (11.3.7) and Leopard 10.5.1. Am losing a few (not all) older Excel files after modifying & saving. I'm backed up and can open them on Tiger, but for the life of me cannot find them in the Leopard partition. Any thoughts?
While entering data into a spreadsheet Excel quits with the following message "Microsoft Excel has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."
Below is the data which gets sent to Microsoft. It is happening all the time. Which is not making me happy.
Operating System Information
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (Build 9C31)
CPU: Intel Core Duo, Number: 2, Speed: 2147 MHz
gestaltPhysicalRAMSize err = 0, result = 2047 MB
gestaltSystemVersion err = 0, result = 0x1052
Screen: 1440 x 900, depth = 32, ltbr = 0, 0, 900, 1440
Microsoft Application Information:
Error Reporting UUID: 22AC67BD-F2A5-4B47-9BF5-5F7CD450DCBB
Time from launch: 0 hours, 3 minutes, 41 seconds
Total errors on this client: 15
I have been having instability issues with Excel since I upgraded to Leopard. Excel quits frequently. This seems to happen quite often and usually when I'm selecting a menu option from the tool bar. Any ideas on a cause? I have reported the issue to Apple many time over the past few months.
Quoting from "Stephen Waga" <>, in article
ee7fdb7.46@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, on [DATE:
> I have been having instability issues with Excel since I upgraded to Leopard.
> Excel quits frequently. This seems to happen quite often and usually when I'm
> selecting a menu option from the tool bar. Any ideas on a cause? I have
> reported the issue to Apple many time over the past few months.
Hi Stephen,
Which version of Excel are you using? I've been using 2004 and it's been
very stable.
Is there a particular set of steps you can take to make Excel crash?
Have you done any troubleshooting steps such as using Disk Utility to repair
permissions or using DiskWarrior or TechTools Pro to check your file system?
I have Macbook Pro with 10.5. All updates etc are installed. To be honest, I came to this forum for glitches. Seems to be whingers, not glitches.
MS products are notoriously buggy (after DOS6). Excel 2008 crashes at random moments and isn't real smart with spaces/expose (but better than 2004) otherwise it works well, fast (universal) and is slicked up and more useable. Unless VBA is essential move on up. Obviously MS apps are better on an MS OS, just as with Apple apps on an Apple OS.
Posters to such forums should always consider these rules (1) it is most likely the poster and not the product. (2) The poster is probably not as savvy with computers as they like to think. (3) Being able to mess up your settings and not remember you did or how and being able to install all kinds of poorly made freeware that makes things 'cool' isn't being savvy. (4) Asking for help, even if it is the 20th or 100th person who finally can help you is is more likely o create friendships and solve problems than flaming people with trash talk.
So all I'd like to say is that it is a bit unstable and that I look forward to the well coded point update when it is ready.
Love being an early adopter it teaches you where the save button is.
I am using MS Office 2004 and I have Leopard. My problem is that Excel doesn't want to close. I have to force quit almost every other day and send reports. This didn't happen before I installed leopard. Is there something I can do?
> I am using MS Office 2004 and I have Leopard. My problem is that Excel
> doesn't want to close. I have to force quit almost every other day and send
> reports. This didn't happen before I installed leopard. Is there something I
> can do?
First, the usual: make sure that both Office and Leopard are updated
fully. Reset Disk Permissions using the Disk Utility app.
I assume you've tried to close using both the keyboard shortcut and the
menu command, right? Does ANYTHING appear to happen when you try?
With all Office apps closed, try renaming the
~:Library:Preferences:Micrsoft
folder. Open XL - it will recreate the folder. Same problem? If not, you
can add back any files you wanted to save, e.g., autocorrects, Word- or
PPT-related files, Custom Dictionary, etc.
If not, post back with some more info:
- Do you have the same problem with Entourage, Word or PowerPoint?
- Does this happen every time you try to quit?
- Does this happen if you hold the shift-key down while starting XL?
- Do you have a default workbook set?
RE: Keyboard and other prefs issues in Leopard:
When I was running Office 2004, installed Leopard via Archive and Install and a lot of the permissions got messed up, locking me out of being able to change preferences. Had to erase the iMac and reinstall everything, without importing ANY Apple preferences. That stopped it. On my MacBookPro, everything worked fine until I "updated to 10.5.2" and then, permissions errors regarding changed preferences. In that case, repaired preferences and it stopped. This is part 1 of 3.
1. Try to download a printer driver from the printer's manufacturer, and see if there is a CUPS driver for your printer (Common Unix Printing Solution).
2. If you have been using a lot of PostScript® fonts in the past, some of the older ones don't seem to be compatible with either OSX or Office 2004. Especially if they came from Classic or were not genuine Adobe PostScript. Consider using OpenType, ClearType (Office 2008) or other fonts.
I use a third-party keyboard with my MacBookPro. After upgrading to Leopard, found that I needed to visit its manufacturer's website and download driver or control software for that keyboard. Solved some problems.
Also, (know this seems a pain, but…) Not all keyboard customizations pass through when one updates. Aafter upgrading to various versions of Office, have found it very helpful to visit TOOLS, CUSTOMIZE KEYBOARD (2008) and make sure all of my custom shortcuts still work. This applies in Office, and also had to use it in Adobe InDesign, Adobe Dreamweaver, etc.
I have an issue with Excel 2008 and Leopard v 10.5.1 - docs will not save, says it can't locate that file name and it is due to low memory.
I have an iMac w/ 2.16GHz processor and 2 GB RAM and I've only used it for a month so that isn't a problem. Any ideas?
No keyboard problems...so far.
With Excel 2008 and Leopard v 10.5.2
in the menu bar, the "File" menu, between the "Excel" menu and the "Edit" menu HAS DISAPPEARED.
Can anyone tell me what to do ?
I am working with '08 on a Mac Book Air running Leopard 10.5.2 and was experiencing freezing until I removed the Microsoft font folder from the root Library folder. ( /Library)
I just installed Mac Office yesterday and opened an Excel report from a Windows-using associate and was able to read it, but the moment I tried to close the file, the Air would lock up and I would be forced to perform a hard restart.
I put the Microsoft font folder on the desktop using the Move command; holding down the Command key as I dragged it to my desktop. I restarted my Mac and the conflict disappeared completely.
MS Office for MAC 2008 running on a Leopard OS IMAC crashes all the time. I am entering information into the cells, no formulas, simple numbers and some text.
I hope our government officials enact a LEMON LAW for a faulty product. Not only has this cost me time, patience, frustration and money, I intend to tell everybody I know about this.
This is lies in the cess beneath NOT GOOD. It is LOUSY and irresponsible.
Setting my autosave to account for every minute is ridiculous. I'm tire of getting carpal tunnel clicking your SEND GUIs when EXCEL crashes. What else can I expect?
D.P. Begin wrote:
> MS Office for MAC 2008 running on a Leopard OS IMAC crashes all the time. I am entering information into the cells, no formulas, simple numbers and some text.
>
> I hope our government officials enact a LEMON LAW for a faulty product. Not only has this cost me time, patience, frustration and money, I intend to tell everybody I know about this.
>
> This is lies in the cess beneath NOT GOOD. It is LOUSY and irresponsible.
>
> Setting my autosave to account for every minute is ridiculous. I'm tire of getting carpal tunnel clicking your SEND GUIs when EXCEL crashes. What else can I expect?
I have had excellent luck with Microsoft Office 2004 in Leopard.
My luck with NeoOffice (free from http://www.neooffice.org/) is not as
good as Microsoft Office 2004. The latest NeoOffice version may be
usable for many people, but I still prefer Microsoft Office 2004.
Hi
I've read a lot of posts concerning Excel crashing...
I agree Excel 2008 is the most unstable software I've used in a long time...
I autosave every minute and I am also sick and tired of resaving recovered files with new names...not to mention lost work..
I used Excel 2007 in Vista before the 2008 came out and was seriously disappointed when finding that the Excel Mac version turned out to be lousy cosmetic upgrade of the Mac 2004 version (which is based on ancient software in itself).
For instance is the Pivot functionality in 2008 versus the PC 2007 version a joke.
Talking about refund policies etc. is not good enough. Shape up Microsoft!
(The Powerpoint version of 2008 is however great - seems like you guys at Microsoft don't believe there are spreadsheet users in the Mac community?)
I AM TRYING TO GRAPH IN EXCEL (LEOPARD) AND AM HAVING TROUble
1 can't insert a series as an X axis (eg dates)
2 i can only get 2 y axes on a line chart not a column and then i lose the X axis altogether
I am not sure if this is a glitch or if I am just doing something wrong, but the process seems so straight forward, it is hard for me to see what else I should try.
PROBLEM: I tried to input new data (a new column of numbers) into a chart by going to Chart > Add Data.. I then highlight the new column and click add.
The Y values indicate that the data has been included, however the chart does not display the new numbers.
Am I missing a step?
Just so you know, my chart is set up with days as the X axis and the series come from numbers on a sheet that are laid out horizontally.
Excel in Leopard quits unexpectedly, screen goes blue and all data is lost. Have tried to have fixed my Mac Experts but nothing works. HELP !!!. No one seems to know what to do.
Bob Cartwright wrote:
> Excel in Leopard quits unexpectedly, screen goes blue and all data is lost. Have tried to have fixed my Mac Experts but nothing works. HELP !!!. No one seems to know what to do.
Hi Bob,
When does this happen? Is it when you are trying to open a specific
file? Is it every time you try to open Excel? Are you using Excel v.x,
2004, or 2008? Have you updated office?
I have the same issue with the keyboard freeze (using Leopard 10.5.2 and Excel 2004).
Is there any solution, yet?
And the 2008 version really is a piece of crap (sorry to be so harsh). Not that it is even slower than Excel 2004, there is no option to use customized x-values nor customized error-bars.
This version as it is now is absolutely useless. I just can't believe that MS is not able do deliver a working and fully functional spreadsheet application for Mac.
As I posted a while back, I had serious problems with keyboards and Excel 2004 and Leopard.
Thanks to the posters here, and my own digging, I was able to fix most of the problems by discarding the Excel preferences.
Still remaining were the keyboard entry freeze. After I enter a variable amount of cell input through the keyboard, the keyboard refuses to accept any more. However, when I mouse over to the menu & do a save-using the mouse-the keyboard frees up for a little while. Then I have to repeat the process. It's sort of been integrated into my work routine.
However, I think I've found a connection between the number of open toolbars and the length of time before freezes. Closing two toolbars means I can now enter a transaction or two without the keyboard freezing. And so far, the only freezes I've encountered lately have been on file commands.
The problem is almost as if the keyboard and the toolbars are sharing the same buffer, which is too small to begin with. But what do I know?
After reading multiple posts about the keyboard/Excel 2004 problem I am amazed neither Apple or Microsoft has come up with a solution to this. I have multiple computers here at work that have the same problem. Excel 2004 was fine under 10.4, but under 10.5(.0, .1, & .2) it has this problem everyone is describing about the keyboard freezing up. There doesn't even seem to be any rational suggestions of what to try to possibly fix this. Fortunately Excel 2008 does have the ability to set the default save format as XLS instead of the XLSX XLM format, but it obviously costs a lot of money to upgrade multiple computers. I won't even get into Excel 2008 crashes, crappy implementation, lack of features (compared to Excel 2007 PC), etc.
excel bogs down my system, crashes constantly, and no help is in sight.
Problem: using excel '04 on an osx tiger macbook, working with graphs will slow the system down terribly, and eventually will crash the program. When office '08 became available at my university I upgraded with the hope of fixing this problem. After upgrading to '08, excel was just as buggy, if not worse.
Help: So I call M$ customer support and spend 2.5 hours on the phone with an incredibly well intentioned, informative, and helpful technician. He worked with me, asked me to email him specific problem files, and attempted to recreate the problem. After all the work we did, he suspected I had faulty macbook, bad ram or something. He ran the a file that I could make crash instantly on 2 macs (leopard) he had access to, and a pc. The file was slow on all of the macs, but not the PC, but it never crashed. He also suggested that I upgrade to Leopard. The following day I upgraded to Leopard, and the problem persisted. At this point, I called Apple support, and after they stopped fumbling my call (I was on the phone for 45 min before someone attempted to help me), I dealt with some snooty know it all prick who belittled my use of open-source software on my mac (growl) and suggested that I reformat the HD and reinstall leopard. I relayed how annoyed I was that I had to do this with my mac, as this was the very reason I invested in a mac and not another PC laptop. After wiping my HD and reinstalling leopard, excel '08 had the same problems. So I had to drive 45 min to the apple store and drop off my macbook for hardware tests (very inconvenient for a grad student to be without their computer). 4 days later I get a call back from the mac 'genius' at the store and they find nothing wrong with my hardware. He says excel crashed on not only my macbook, but his floor computers he tested the file on.
Solution from apple: " wait for the update coming ~march 11". No explanation as to why both office '04 and '08 have the same problems. So I have a computer that isn't doing what I need it to do, and I'm going to have to resort to open office spreadsheets for my graphing needs.
I have just purchased a new MACbook Pro and 2008 student/teacher office pack...I do a lot of updating on a spreadsheet and one column which is designated for "text" is indicating "The value to be entered must be a date between 1/2/1994 and 1/1/2055. In addition text is not being reflected in the spreadsheet when noted as wrap unless I click on the cell. I don't own 2004 -if anyone has suggestions I would appreciate but also entering notes here for flag of MS staff monitoring - needless to say I am not happy. It has been a long time since I have worked on MAC - what other option do I have besides MS?
If you can stand a bit of a different interface, it is completely compatible with M$ products, however there are some formatting issues, but I have found that those are when opening a spreadsheet created in M$ excel.
I too have having an extremely annoying issue w/ Excel 2004 keyboard input occasionally, sometimes frequently freezing up when I try to type in a cell. It often happens after typing the first character in a cell successfully. I really haven't been able to find much regularity to it. The mouse continues to work fine. I can click around a bit and then the keyboard often continues to work again. I had the problem trying to open a password protected Excel file once, but after much clicking about I was able to get the password typed into the password box finally. I'll try the save button as suggested by others next. No problem w/ other applications. I'm on 10.5.2. Macbook Pro. 2GB RAM. My coworker has similar problem as well with Excel 2004 running on 10.5.2 but a newer Macbook Pro. I also skimmed Apple support and discussions. No solution there either, but I can see others with this issue there too. I can't upgrade to office 2008 since some of the spreadsheets I use require Macros. I hope Apple & Microsoft come up with a fix for this issue soon.
We are looking into this problem, but unfortunately don't have any
resolution yet. Is there anything unique about your configuration when you
encounter this? Do you have other applications running, or just Excel?
Thanks,
Pat
On 13/03/2008 22:13, in article ee7fdb7.72@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "Thomas
Correa" wrote:
> I too have having an extremely annoying issue w/ Excel 2004 keyboard input
> occasionally, sometimes frequently freezing up when I try to type in a cell.
> It often happens after typing the first character in a cell successfully. I
> really haven't been able to find much regularity to it. The mouse continues to
> work fine. I can click around a bit and then the keyboard often continues to
> work again. I had the problem trying to open a password protected Excel file
> once, but after much clicking about I was able to get the password typed into
> the password box finally. I'll try the save button as suggested by others
> next. No problem w/ other applications. I'm on 10.5.2. Macbook Pro. 2GB RAM.
> My coworker has similar problem as well with Excel 2004 running on 10.5.2 but
> a newer Macbook Pro. I also skimmed Apple support and discussions. No solution
> there either, but I can see others with this issue there too. I can't upgrade
> to office 2008 since some of the spreadsheets I use require Macros. I hope
> Apple & Microsoft come up with a fix for this issue soon.
--
Pat McMillan
Macintosh Business Unit
Microsoft Corp.
This posting is provided łAS IS˛ with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Derek wrote:
> @ Fern Gale Estrow
>
> openoffice dot org.
>
> If you can stand a bit of a different interface, it is completely compatible with M$ products, however there are some formatting issues, but I have found that those are when opening a spreadsheet created in M$ excel.
Hi,
I wish to challenge your assertion that OpenOffice is "completely
compatible with M$ products..." It's just not true. You won't make Mac
users happy by overselling open source products.
There's plenty to frustrate an advanced Excel user in OpenOffice, so
please stop exaggerating OO's capabilities.
Let's be honest and say that up to a point, OpenOffice and NeoOffice are
compatible with Microsoft products. OpenOffice and Microsoft Office are
different suites offering different components. The object models are
not identical, so right away there are incompatibilities.
Many of the differences are not trivial.
For example: VBA in OpenOffice 2.3.1 (the current shipping version) just
does not work at all in Leopard. You can point OO to the Java Runtime
Environment that ships with Leopard and it will refuse to recognize it.
So, like Office 2008, VBA is completely broken, MIA, non-functional.
VBA in OO applies only to Calc (the spreadsheet). There's no VBA at all
for word processing or presentations. If you thought Office 2004's VBA
editor was rudimentary, wait until you see the OO VBA editor. There's no
Object browser. You still need Microsoft Office 2004 to build your VBA
code and then try it out in OO. It will need a lot of tweaking.
VBA in NeoOffice 2.2.2, which is an earlier version of OpenOffice
recompiled in an Aqua interface, DOES support VBA on the Mac. (When I
refer to OO, I'm referring to both OpenOffice and NeoOffice and use the
terms interchangeably). NeoOffice DOES recognize the JRE. There's a huge
BUT, however. VBA in all of OpenOffice is only partially implemented. No
UserForms. Many commands do not work. It will be years before VBA in OO
is robust, and because of object model differences some VBA commands
will never work in OO.
Using SQL in Excel vs Calc (the OpenOffice spreadsheet program) is quite
different. Excel has a true SQL GUI. OO does not (if it does, I haven't
found it yet). I was able to work my way through using ODBC and MS Query
in Microsoft Office. I'm no dummy but I still have not figured out the
OO way to do it.
I am not trying to trash OpenOffice here, just the notion that it is a
perfect substitute for Microsoft Office.
So if OO is not completely compatible with Microsoft Office, how
compatible is it?
My opinion is that it is "pretty good" overall. Focusing on Calc, almost
every Excel function is implemented. OO looks and acts like Excel much
of the time.
OpenOffice ODF (Open Document Format) is inefficient. Yesterday I zipped
a Microsoft Word document in .doc format and it was 14k. The same
document zipped in ODF was 148k - more than 10 times larger. The Open
Source crowd is still pushing for this file format. Yuk IMHO. But OO
does a very nice job of saving to .doc format, so I have no problem
ignoring ODF most of the time.
Until Office 2008 was released I could rely on Microsoft Office to
support VBA macros and add-ins. Now I can't. To me, the value of
NeoOffice is that it gives me an alternative way to create and
distribute cross-platform applications for Macs and Windows. But I don't
think OO is as good as Microsoft Office 2004.
For my money, Microsoft Office 2004 is what stays on my Mac. It's where
I "live" most of the time. I have NeoOffice so I can open the occasional
Office 2007/2008 documents that come my way, and so I can distribute
applications with VBA for both Macs and Windows.
> Bob Cartwright wrote:
> > Excel in Leopard quits unexpectedly, screen goes blue and all data is lost. Have tried to have fixed my Mac Experts but nothing works. HELP !!!. No one seems to know what to do.
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> When does this happen? Is it when you are trying to open a specific
> file? Is it every time you try to open Excel? Are you using Excel v.x,
> 2004, or 2008? Have you updated office?
>
> Please respond with more information.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jim
>
> --
> Jim Gordon
> Mac MVP
>
> MVPs are independent experts who are not affiliated with Microsoft.
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
There is no definite time that this happens. Totally random. It does not happen every time. Usually OK to open Excel, but once starting to work, happens most times. Using Excel 2004 and have updated office. Took into the "Genius" bar twice and they have done nothing to repair.
I had this same problem with Excel 2004 when using 10.5 on Intel
hardware, but only when using an external USB keyboard (not my MacBook
Pro's internal keyboard). Upgrading to Excel 2008 has completely cured
this.
On 2008-03-17 13:00:58 -0400, "Bob Cartwright" said:
>> Bob Cartwright wrote:
>> > Excel in Leopard quits unexpectedly, screen goes blue and all data
>> is lost. Have tried to have fixed my Mac Experts but nothing works.
>> HELP !!!. No one seems to know what to do.
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> When does this happen? Is it when you are trying to open a specific
>> file? Is it every time you try to open Excel? Are you using Excel v.x,
>> 2004, or 2008? Have you updated office?
>>
>> Please respond with more information.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> --
>> Jim Gordon
>> Mac MVP
>>
>> MVPs are independent experts who are not affiliated with Microsoft.
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> There is no definite time that this happens. Totally random. It does
> not happen every time. Usually OK to open Excel, but once starting to
> work, happens most times. Using Excel 2004 and have updated office.
> Took into the "Genius" bar twice and they have done nothing to repair.
>
> Thanks Bob
Bob Cartwright wrote:
>> Bob Cartwright wrote:
>> > Excel in Leopard quits unexpectedly, screen goes blue and all data is lost. Have tried to have fixed my Mac Experts but nothing works. HELP !!!. No one seems to know what to do.
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> When does this happen? Is it when you are trying to open a specific
>> file? Is it every time you try to open Excel? Are you using Excel v.x,
>> 2004, or 2008? Have you updated office?
>>
>> Please respond with more information.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> --
>> Jim Gordon
>> Mac MVP
>>
>> MVPs are independent experts who are not affiliated with Microsoft.
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
> There is no definite time that this happens. Totally random. It does not happen every time. Usually OK to open Excel, but once starting to work, happens most times. Using Excel 2004 and have updated office. Took into the "Genius" bar twice and they have done nothing to repair.
>
> Thanks Bob
Hi again,
I have found every time I try to maximize an Excel file originally created with Excel for Windows my entire Macbook Pro locks up. My system & software are only weeks old and I've downloaded/installed the latest Office 2008 upgrades which, I thought, was supposed to address the application's freezing.
My only solution thus far is to force my MBP to reboot by holding down the o/f button.
On 19/03/2008 06:05, in article ee7fdb7.78@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Greg_Thener@officeformac.com" wrote:
> I have found every time I try to maximize an Excel file originally created
> with Excel for Windows my entire Macbook Pro locks up. My system & software
> are only weeks old and I've downloaded/installed the latest Office 2008
> upgrades which, I thought, was supposed to address the application's freezing.
>
> My only solution thus far is to force my MBP to reboot by holding down the o/f
> button.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Greg
--
Pat McMillan
Macintosh Business Unit
Microsoft Corp.
This posting is provided łAS IS˛ with no warranties, and confers no rights.
I find Excel in Leopard very unstable. This afternoon I have had two crashes. The first was when I was editing a formula to add the "$" signs so the cell references wouldn't change as I copied, and the second was as I was trying to do as "sumif" without using the "helpful" fill-in box on the right, just typing it in the (inconvenient to access) formula bar. I both cases Excel was trying to insert a "+" followed by a cell reference.
Does the new Excel work reliably with Leopard? This is only the beginning of the problems I have been having.
On 3/25/08 10:02 PM, in article ee7fdb7.80@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"TryingToUseOfficeOnMyMac@officeformac.com" wrote:
> I find Excel in Leopard very unstable. This afternoon I have had two crashes.
> The first was when I was editing a formula to add the "$" signs so the cell
> references wouldn't change as I copied, and the second was as I was trying to
> do as "sumif" without using the "helpful" fill-in box on the right, just
> typing it in the (inconvenient to access) formula bar. I both cases Excel was
> trying to insert a "+" followed by a cell reference.
>
> Does the new Excel work reliably with Leopard? This is only the beginning of
> the problems I have been having.
>
> Ed
For What it's Worth, I have been using Excel 2008 with OS 10.5.2 with NONE
of the problems being reported here. I have been trying diligently to
determine why (or how) my configuration my be different from others, and can
not arrive at anything consistent. So, rest assured, Excel does indeed work
properly and reliably. I am certain that Microsoft is scrambling to find out
what is causing the reported problems, and will be issuing and update just
as soon as they can be sure it really fixes the issues and does not cause
any others.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
Excel freezes rock solid on me. I can do nothing but reboot. I've not figured out the pattern yet. I'm switching to numbers, or using Parallels until this is fixed.
Apparently, not even Mac OS X kernel can save Microsoft. I've never had ANY product on my mac freeze the machine so badly that I had to reboot (only the mouse would work). Beachball of death.
I have a spreadsheet in Excel that has worked perfectly until Leopard. It has changed the widths of my columns and now I get xxxxx instead of numbers. I no longer get the arrows I use to get to enable me to alter column widths to suit my data. HELP!
I have been having intermittent problems with Excel 2008 - version 12.0.1 on my 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Imac running OS 10.5.2. Sometimes it quits, saying it's a memory issue? Now I am trying to open a workbook that was saved with my previous version of Excel (OfficeX) and get the following error ... I like other Office 2008 features, but use excel pivot tables extensively ... can I reinstall OfficeX and chose which I run for what?
Operating System Information
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (Build 9C7010)
CPU: Intel Core Duo, Number: 2, Speed: 2147 MHz
gestaltPhysicalRAMSize err = 0, result = 1024 MB
gestaltSystemVersion err = 0, result = 0x1052
Screen: 1680 x 1050, depth = 32, ltbr = 0, 0, 1050, 1680
Microsoft Application Information:
Error Reporting UUID: AFB51AC4-562B-4262-A7EE-64684B65A132
Time from launch: 0 hours, 23 minutes, 48 seconds
Total errors on this client: 7
This has been reported many, many times in this newsgroup and I've said many
times that this is an Apple issue. Apple is aware of the bug and is working
on a fix. There are many reports that it also affects other apps besides
Microsoft apps. Please contact Apple if you have a complaint about this
specific issue. For other problems with Mac Office, please keep them coming!
Thanks,
Pat
On 3/26/08 3:49 PM, in article ee7fdb7.82@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "msafar" wrote:
> Excel freezes rock solid on me. I can do nothing but reboot. I've not figured
> out the pattern yet. I'm switching to numbers, or using Parallels until this
> is fixed.
>
> Apparently, not even Mac OS X kernel can save Microsoft. I've never had ANY
> product on my mac freeze the machine so badly that I had to reboot (only the
> mouse would work). Beachball of death.
--
Pat McMillan
Macintosh Business Unit
Microsoft Corp.
This posting is provided łAS IS˛ with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> This has been reported many, many times in this newsgroup and I've said many
> times that this is an Apple issue. Apple is aware of the bug and is working
> on a fix. There are many reports that it also affects other apps besides
> Microsoft apps. Please contact Apple if you have a complaint about this
> specific issue. For other problems with Mac Office, please keep them coming!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
>
>
> On 3/26/08 3:49 PM, in article ee7fdb7.82@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "msafar"
> wrote:
>
> > Excel freezes rock solid on me. I can do nothing but reboot. I've not figured
> > out the pattern yet. I'm switching to numbers, or using Parallels until this
> > is fixed.
> >
> > Apparently, not even Mac OS X kernel can save Microsoft. I've never had ANY
> > product on my mac freeze the machine so badly that I had to reboot (only the
> > mouse would work). Beachball of death.
>
> --
> Pat McMillan
> Macintosh Business Unit
> Microsoft Corp.
> This posting is provided �AS IS� with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
Hi, Pat -
It may be more effective if we all contact Apple about these Excel problems in the same way. Can you supply an e-mail address to use?
I wish I could do that, but I don't think it would be good for our
relationship with Apple if I did so! I'm not sure of the best way for Apple
customers to report these types of issues, but there should be a way via
Apple's web site.
Thanks,
Pat
On 3/30/08 7:22 PM, in article ee7fdb7.86@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Roger_Rubinstein@officeformac.com"
wrote:
>> This has been reported many, many times in this newsgroup and I've said many
>> times that this is an Apple issue. Apple is aware of the bug and is working
>> on a fix. There are many reports that it also affects other apps besides
>> Microsoft apps. Please contact Apple if you have a complaint about this
>> specific issue. For other problems with Mac Office, please keep them coming!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pat
>>
>>
>> On 3/26/08 3:49 PM, in article ee7fdb7.82@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw, "msafar"
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Excel freezes rock solid on me. I can do nothing but reboot. I've not
>> figured
>> > out the pattern yet. I'm switching to numbers, or using Parallels until
>> this
>> > is fixed.
>> >
>> > Apparently, not even Mac OS X kernel can save Microsoft. I've never had
>> ANY
>> > product on my mac freeze the machine so badly that I had to reboot (only
>> the
>> > mouse would work). Beachball of death.
>>
>> --
>> Pat McMillan
>> Macintosh Business Unit
>> Microsoft Corp.
>> This posting is provided �AS IS� with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>>
>>
>
> Hi, Pat -
>
> It may be more effective if we all contact Apple about these Excel problems in
> the same way. Can you supply an e-mail address to use?
>
> Thanks.
--
Pat McMillan
Macintosh Business Unit
Microsoft Corp.
This posting is provided łAS IS˛ with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Since I upgraded yesterday from Office 2004 to Office 2008, the new Excel has crashed 8 times, first giving the warning "Not enough memory". I have 2 GB of memory on a MacBook Pro running 10.5.2. I can't recall the last time Excel in Office 2004 crashed, if ever.
Is this the Apple issue referred to above? If so, why didn't it affect the old, working, Excel?
On 4/4/08 7:39 AM, in article ee7fdb7.89@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Gwyn_Headley@officeformac.com" wrote:
> Make that 10 times now. I haven't had memory problems like this since I bought
> Word 6.0 on 16 floppy disks.
I suppose it could be the Apple problem mentioned. And the reason it did not
effect Excel 2004, is that Excel 2004 is running in simulation via Rosetta
on Intel machines while Excel 2008 is "native."
On the other hand, I have been running Excel 2008 daily on a MacBook Pro
with 10.5.2 and the latest office updates, and it has never crashed for me.
Have you tried running it in a new user account?
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
Do you mean a new user account in the Mac OS? If so, no I haven't. Every time I wanted to use Excel (and I dip in and out of it because I'm using it as a database for a book) I'd have to log out of my open applications and effectively restart. Not an appealing work routine. But if it's the only way to go, then I'll have to do it. Or go back to Office 2004. I have the disk somewhere …
On 4/4/08 9:41 AM, in article ee7fdb7.91@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"Gwyn_Headley@officeformac.com" wrote:
> Do you mean a new user account in the Mac OS? If so, no I haven't. Every time
> I wanted to use Excel (and I dip in and out of it because I'm using it as a
> database for a book) I'd have to log out of my open applications and
> effectively restart. Not an appealing work routine. But if it's the only way
> to go, then I'll have to do it. Or go back to Office 2004. I have the disk
> somewhere …
Yes, I meant a new user account in the Mac OS. I did not mean for it to be
an answer to your problem, but only as a diagnostic. If it works in a new
user account, then there is something (I have no idea what yet) wrong with
your main configuration.
--
Bob Greenblatt [MVP], Macintosh
bobgreenblattATmsnDOTcom
